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- Subject: Info-Hams Digest V94 #691
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- Info-Hams Digest Wed, 22 Jun 94 Volume 94 : Issue 691
-
- Today's Topics:
- "Renewal" reusable alkaline batteries
- Lead Acid Storage Batteries
- Railroad track as an antenna?
-
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- Date: 21 Jun 94 17:12:33 EDT
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!swrinde!emory!dragon!hayes!bcoleman@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: "Renewal" reusable alkaline batteries
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- In article <2tppfe$rvn@search01.news.aol.com>, dgoodman@aol.com (DGoodman) writes:
- >
- > getting very good life out of the cells. What I like best about them
- > is that they don't have nicad-like memories to worry about.
-
- Modern nicads don't have "memory." You can't induce a memory without hundreds
- of equal-length cycles, anyway.
-
- Nicad memory is largely a thing of myth. I've seen more nicad abuse in
- persuit of avoiding "memory" than anything.
-
- > If I'm
- > unsure about how much charge is left in a set before heading out, I
- > simply pop in a fully charged set (they don't drain unused, like
- > nicads), put the questionable ones in the charger, and exit.
-
- Nicads have a pretty long self-discharge rate. Lead acid cells, on the other
- hand.... And I don't see why you couldn't pop a set of fully charged nicads
- in like you do the renewals.
-
- > In any case, I'm very pleased with the system, especially being free
- > of nicad auto discharging and memory worries.
-
- Your worries are largely unfounded.
-
- For what it is worth, two of my friends have Newton 110s and use Renewal
- batteries in them. Ordinary Nicads won't do, because the terminal voltage
- isn't enough. The Newton battery back (with 5 nicad cells) is expensive, as
- is the charger.
-
- They seem to get reasonable life out of the Renewals.
-
- --
- Bill Coleman, AA4LR ! Internet: bcoleman@hayes.com
- Principal Software Engineer ! AppleLink: D1958
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- Disclaimer: "My employer doesn't pay me to have opinions."
- Quote: "The same light shines on vineyards that makes deserts." -Steve Hackett.
-
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- Date: Wed, 22 Jun 1994 06:09:35 GMT
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!swrinde!emory!rsiatl!ke4zv!gary@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: Lead Acid Storage Batteries
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- In article <Pine.3.88.9406212222.A8410-0100000@julian.uwo.ca> "l.h. bol" <lbol@julian.uwo.ca> writes:
- >I have aquired some sealed lead acid cells (plastic pack containing 6
- >cells rated for 5AH) and am trying to figure out the proper charge
- >current for them. I don't want to over-charge them (or under charge)
- >
- >From what I can recall, the charge rate (I) is relative to the AH rating
- >of the cell(s) ??? Do you charge them with a voltage higher than the
- >voltage of the cell(s) ? I seem to have to do this to get them to draw
- >any current when I try to charge them.
- >
- >Can anyone steer me to the proper proceedures or charger design theory.
- >
- >Yes, I suppose I could buy a cheap automotive type charger but I've got
- >all kinds of transformers and diodes etc. kicking around and would like
- >to try and use them up.
-
- Lead acid batteries are normally charged with a constant voltage
- charger. For a nominal 12 volt battery, charger voltage should be
- 14.5 volts during charge, and 13.8 volts during sustain. Auto chargers
- use a saturable core transformer to limit initial charging current,
- cheap and effective. You'll have to install a current limiter when
- using ordinary transformers. Current should be limited to 0.1 C
- for gell cells, 0.33 C for wet cells, where C is the amp-hour rating.
- An auto tail light bulb will do as a current limiter for your gell
- cell. Just put it in series between the 14.5 volt source and the
- battery. It's resistance is non-linear depending on current draw,
- so it'll allow near full voltage at low current, and drop the
- voltage as current draw increases, forming a self-regulating
- system. Crude, but effective.
-
- Gary
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- Date: Wed, 22 Jun 1994 06:51:31 GMT
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!sdd.hp.com!apollo.hp.com!hpwin055.uksr!hpqmoea!dstock@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: Railroad track as an antenna?
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- Lou Williams (nsyslaw@straylight.acs.ncsu.edu) wrote:
-
- : When I first saw this subject, my first thought was HO scale model
- : railroad track.
-
- : Now I'm wondering what the impedance of Nickel Silver, HO gauge track
- : is... Looks awfully close to ladder line. (about 1.25 inch seperation
- : between conductors, now what about that nickel-silver stuff...?)
-
- : Methinks I see a new J-Pole experiment in the future...
-
-
- OK, well, someone'll accuse me of having an over fertile imagination,
- but can't you just see a beam made of folded dipoles where the folds
- just happen to be remotely controlled, movable. A controlled 12v feed
- to the elements and a RF bypass capacitor across the locoXXXXshorting
- bars.
-
- Turntables as RF switches ! or rotators.
-
- Pity nickel alloys tend to be a bit resistive....
-
-
- Cheers
- David GM4ZNX
-
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-
- Date: Wed, 22 Jun 1994 08:25:39 GMT
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!swrinde!howland.reston.ans.net!torn!nott!cunews!freenet.carleton.ca!FreeNet.Carleton.CA!as041@network.ucsd.edu
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- References <CrK1Fn.658@wang.com>, <2tsvr5$mjm@chnews.intel.com>, <Crr4E0.JMJ@wang.com>eeNet.Ca
- Reply-To : as041@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Robin Ludlow)
- Subject : Re: "73's"
-
-
-
- In a previous article, jeffrey@kahuna.tmc.edu (Jeffrey Herman) says:
-
- >Cec: I've got the 1950 edition - don't you just love those ads in the
- >back? Over 100 pages of boatanchor goodies: Hallicrafters, Allied,
- >National, Vibroplex, Johnson, Collins ...
- >
- Jeffrey....while this has thankfully strayed somewhat from the original
- thread on 73(s), I must say I have a much-valued 1943 Handbook (eight
- years prior to my birth) and I find the ads fascinating..they are works of
- art in themselves...National condensers and radios, a Hallicrafters
- receiver WITH A SCOPE!, McElroy tape pullers, huge Eimac tubes, Millen
- components, Sprague condensers, United transformers, Mallory components,
- the Hammarlund HQ-120-X and Super-Pro were hot receivers then, Shure, Astatic
- and Electrovoice mikes, Burgess batteries, B&W, RME, Centralabs, Ohmite,
- Raytheon..it goes on...
-
- To me, it is a real slice of amateur radio history and I would not part with
- it for anything!
- --
- Robin Ludlow, VE3YE
- Orleans, Ontario, Canada
- as041@freenet.carleton.ca
-
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